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Walther Cantu's avatar

We are all toddlers offering mud pies to God.

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Kerri Christopher's avatar

I think perhaps it’s also worth noting that while the Fathers do tend to agree that Mary didn’t experiment the typical pain in childbirth (and I love the Fathers!), it has not been defined in church teaching. The Hebrew in Genesis regarding the pains of childbirth after fall can be translated “increase” … which could possibly imply that there was a kind of pain for prelapsarian woman. [I asked a Biblical scholar about this once because I wasn’t entirely convinced by some arguments.]

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